The Woke Culture Undermines Our Civilization - conversation with Richard Samuelson

2023. február 05. 16:44

"To have a free, democratic republic without an education that inspires young citizens to love their country, and to desire to keep it worth loving on one hand, and, on the other, to raise such citizens without a serious religious education is unlikely to produce anything good or lasting" - Richard Samuelson, professor of Hillsdale College pointed out in a conversation with Lénárd Sándor.

2023. február 05. 16:44
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Dr. Sándor Lénárd

Richard SAMUELSON is an Associate Professor of Government at Hillsdale College’s Washington, D.C., campus.  Dr. Samuelson is an historian of the American founding and of American politics and constitutional thought.  He graduated from Bates College and received his MA and PhD in American history from the University of Virginia.  Dr. Samuelson taught at California State University San Bernardino from 2007 to 2022. He was the 2009-2010 Garwood Visiting Fellow at Princeton University’s James Madison Program.

 

To Central-Europeans who lived through the era of the change of regime, the United States used to represent the “land of Elvis Presley”, the opportunities and freedom, where dreams can come true, the very things they were short of behind the Iron Curtain. Something has, however, dramatically changed down the road and the United States is being transformed so that it is losing this appeal. What has changed in your view?

In his Farewell Address, President Reagan told a story about a U.S.is Navy ship rescuing a “leaky little boat” full of Vietnamese Boat People. Upon seeing an American sailor one of the refugees from Communism hollered at them “Hello, American sailor. Hello, freedom man.''  Is that still America? Is that still how the world sees America?

I hope so, but I fear it is less likely to be the case than is used to be.

In the 1950s, the age of Elvis, when America was the “Land of Elvis,” things were different.  Fighting the Cold War against Soviet Communism, America represented freedom to the nations under Soviet Socialist tyranny.  Back at home, America was free for most people, but for black Americans (a bit more than 10% of the population), America was not free.  Slavery was gone, but it had been replaced by Jim Crow—a set of laws and social customs that treated black Americans as second class citizens, at best. 

The argument I make in my recent essay in the Claremont Review of Books is that to attack the assault on the freedom and equality of black Americans, the United States adopted tactics which, however necessary they were in 1964, have morphed into a threat to American liberty and equality.  America is a land of equality and of freedom, perhaps I should say a land of equal freedom.  By law and by social and cultural custom, both freedom and equality were denied to blacks.  Hence federal law prohibited private entities from “discriminating.” In other words they were no longer private, in the sense of having the right to decide who was in the room, or what they could or could not say.  The Civil Rights law of 1964 also made “sex” a “protected class.”  Fast forward nearly 60 years, and Jim Crow is long gone. That’s a good thing. But civil rights law remains, and what it is now doing is threatening our freedom and equality.

How has the so called “civil rights culture” transformed American politics and the attitude of the people?

Before 1964, Americans, as a rule, had a robust notion of public and private being separate things. To be private meant the right to decide who one associated with, and to decide what to say and do.  In the name of civil rights, as noted above, we suspended that separation.  That suspension is threatening to become permanent. And, sex discrimination (from the start) and (since added) sexuality are categories in Civil Rights law.  Because these other categories are associated with the extremely just cause of ending Jim Crow, they have a sacred status for many Americans.  The trouble is that the regulation of sex and sexuality are, unlike race, inherently religious by their nature.  The result is that Civil Rights law and the Civil Rights Culture that follows from it is fostering a set of governing doctrines, even established religion that are

hostile to the basic teachings of sexuality that have historically been part of Western culture,

not to mention present in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.  Hence many Americans today, unlike in 1964, believe that when a Christian baker refuses to bake a cake for two men who are getting married under local law, he is no different from Bull Connor, who infamously attacked peaceful civil rights protestors in 1963.

So instead of safeguarding, the “civil rights culture” undermines the fundamental social fabric of the U.S. ... 

In my recent essay in the Claremont Review of Books I suggest that one can see the difference between the Civil Rights Movement that produced the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and today’s Woke Civil Rights Culture in the difference between the original Star Trek and the recent Broadway smash Hamilton. In the former, the officer corps consisted of men and women of various races and ethnicities, including Alien races, and in the latter, at least in the original staging the basic divide is between the non-white men and women who portray the Americans and the one non-white on stage—King George III. In other words,

the only white man is the enemy of the new American republic.

In a similar way, in 1964 what the people supported was to broaden American civil liberty to include black citizens who had been oppressed.  What civil rights culture has produced is a large bureaucracy dedicated to the idea that American culture is the problem. Ironically, that is an attack on the civilization that fought and won the American Civil War, the Second World War,  and the Cold War, and that passed the Civil Rights Act.  The reason why securing rights to black Americans took so long is not because cultural change is difficult, it is, according to the Woke, because America is, at its heart irredeemably racist.  Because this point of view is now associated with the Civil Rights Act, it has tremendous cultural power.

How does the rise of the “woke” ideology divided societies in the U.S. and erode the traditional ways of life?

The US has, for much of its history, featured high immigration. Immigration, however, has traditionally been followed by assimilation to the mainstream of American culture.  Nowadays, with the fight against Jim Crow so much in mind, the official doctrine is that it is “racist” to ask immigrants to assimilate to American culture.  Instead

we assimilate them to “minority” identities,

and, given the civil rights culture, these “non-white” subcultures are assimilated to a self-image as oppressed people, rather than as free and equal Americans. In other words, they are assimilated to a very American kind of self-loathing.

In the words of David Goodheart’s formulation, we can witness a rift between the “Somewheres” and the “Anywheres” in the Western World. While the “Anywheres” have no longer real attachments to local communities, the “Somewheres” insist on their roots and traditions. What are the importance of local communities and patriotism in preserving values of Western societies? What role nation states do play in this?

Historically, the United States wasn’t really a ’nation’ in that cultural ideantity was not what made an American American. Historically to be an American was, at first political, and only secondarily cultural and historical.  In a parallel way, America did not, at the national level at least, have and didn’t really have a ’state’ either.  The result of the growth of a genuine American national state in the past 100 years or so has made it much more difficult for the U.S. not to have a deep common cultural identity. Similarly, it means, perhaps, high immigration is much harder to square with the kind of nation America now is. America’s ’Anywheres’ seek to reconcile that tension by assuming away the necessity of the nation state, and perhaps, of politics as it has been known across history.  As we are both political and social by nature, that simply cannot work. The ’anywheres,’ in fact, are residents of particular places. The polis they inhabit, at the highest levels at least, is in a relative handful of places.

From these post-modern imperial centres, if I may call them that, they seek to fulfill the old dream of universal empire.

Given history, the way to bet is that the project will fail, perhaps with a great deal of collateral damage.

On both sides of the Atlantic, there are renewed efforts to rediscover the unique American and European ways of life that once elevated the Western civilization and culture. What other virtues and attitudes would you consider essential in rediscovering the United States and its unique ways of life?

I would stress the importance of both democratic republican governance on one side, and civic participation in the democratic process on the other. In other words, we need a great deal more responsibility and authority in local and state governments, particularly in the branch the people elect, and even at the federal level.  The withering away of the legislative branch is a key aspect of the trans-national project, as it’s a necessary means of

disconnecting state action from the realities of politics and from the regular consent of the people.

But, and this is also essential, the kind of responsibilities the American liberty put on the individual citizen, in his private and public life, have historically been inseparable from the religious practice of the West.  To have a free, democratic republic without an education that inspires young citizens to love their country, and to desire to keep it worth loving on one hand, and, on the other, to raise such citizens without a serious religious education is unlikely to produce anything good or lasting.  It is more likely to produce ingrates than virtuous citizens.

In his Farewell Address, President Washington, reflecting upon the ideology of the French Revolution, noted that “And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion.”  Washington, who probably never would have made it above Colonel in the aristocratic British army, tried to cultivate and promote men based upon talent, rather than based upon connections and family name.  Those to things, religious and moral education, and the assumption that the child of any father might be worthy of promotion based upon talent are part of the same cloth. With its hyperfocus on race in college admissions, hiring, and promotion, Woke points back, in a post-modern way, to the British way.  It takes race, the lamentable great exception to American efforts to hire and promote based upon talent and not birth, and seeks to ensure that accidents of birth are fundamental in American life for eternity. This racial and ethnic spoils system is more likely to produce cultural strife, than it is to secure American liberty and equality.

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2023. február 05. 19:44
Very interesting interview. I tend to agree with Mr. Samuelson on just about everything he said here. PERHAPS it was necessary to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964, as black Americans indeed, in several states, were not given the opportunity to enjoy full civil rights. Although I also tend to think that even without that law, eventually society, the economy, and changing attitudes/culture would have remedied the situation. Whichever is the case, however, that and similar laws and efforts have outlived their usefulness. Why does the USA still need affirmative action? In my opinion, it does not. We all know, however, that laws are sometimes pretty hard to change - especially, if it promotes certain benefits for a certain group of people. Originally it was created for the black population of the country. These days, it includes just about every racial, ethnic, and lately even sexual minorities which, in fact, defeats the original purpose. If, say, some racist person at a corporation refuses to hire a worker because of his/her race, there are other remedies to rely on. Also, that person could just walk across the street to a different company and, if he/she is competent would get a job. Mr. Samuelson touches several important subjects in the interview. Unfortunately, there is not enough room to mention all of them. On a final note: It occured to me that Professor Samuelson's opinions have a lot of resemblance to those of Patrick Buchanan. Mr Buchanan, in his long life, was called by people on the 'other' side by every name in the book. The one that most of us can PROBABLY agree on is: Consistently Conservative. He and Mr. Samuelson seem to have similar opinions on politics, society, and culture.
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