You have been studying for quite a long time the legal, economic and political perspectives of the investment treaty regime that is one of the most controversial but least understood fields of international economic law. How well were capital importing countries aware of the risks associated with international investment treaties in your view?
I would like to start by first asking another question: which are the capital importing countries? In the past, we used to draw a relatively clear distinction between capital importers and capital exporters. Capital importers were mainly developing countries and capital exporters were mainly industrialised countries. In some early investment treaties this distinction was drawn very clearly. I have in mind a 1972 bilateral investment treaty between France and Tunisia, whose preamble expressly established the parties’ desire to encourage French investments in Tunisia, thus creating the presumption in favour of a one-sided flow of capital. However,
the distinction between capital importers and capital exporters is less clear today.
One need only take a look at UNCTAD’s latest World Investment Report to notice that there is a significant overlap between capital importing countries and capital exporting countries. In other words, the line between capital exporters and capital importers has to some extent become blurred.
What types of risks do investment treaties pose?
I assume that by ‘risks’ you refer to the fact that
a state may face ISDS proceedings and have to comply with an adverse award or, for example, that in the course of ISDS proceedings, a state may discover that a particular provision in an investment treaty is to be interpreted differently than in the manner understood by the state.
I will use the term ‘risks’, because it is the one you used, but with the caveat that we must not forget that, while ISDS may be perceived as a ‘risk’, it has been put in place for good reason. Focusing on the ‘risks’ is very trendy, but we must not have an ahistorical view of why dispute settlement mechanisms, including ISDS, were created in the first place.
Now we have all been discovering the ‘risks’ of ISDS as we went along. This is not something specific to developing countries, but it is specific to capital importers. The ‘risks’ related to ISDS proceedings are perceived from the viewpoint of the capital importer, that is, from the viewpoint of the host state. It is the host state that may have to face dispute settlement proceedings.